Posts tagged ‘appeal to authority’

“I know the family”

To add legitimacy to the claim that the story doesn’t add up after a serious or fatal pit bull mauling, Maul Talkers on mauling threads will sometimes say, “I know the family” and what is being reported is untrue. In dazzling lies — due to the anonymity of most comment sections — a pit nutter may claim that he knows the family (a lie) and claim to be a member of the community (another lie) and that he has “inside information” about the incident that has been sensationalized by the media.

You can believe this. The dogs did not kill John Reynolds. I will not go into the details of his injuries due to respect for the family, but NO dog did the injuries that were inflicted on him. It was most likely the mountain lion that has been spotted in the area. First of all, if the dogs killed him, you would see injuries on the dogs. The video did not show any injuries to the dogs. If the dogs were in a frenzy eating John, then they would have had injuries themselves….
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We all pay taxes here. We are not that poor. Third, the Missouri Dept. of Conservation keeps saying there are not Mountain Lions living in Missouri. Bull….! They are here. The citizens see them. We all have our stories of spotting them. – IMCROI
The story was originally reported as the dogs being APBT, yes. It also said that the child was a boy. The stories have been amended. They still have not released the official autopsy reports and I am interested to see how they will be spun by the media. Patch — this was not “allowed” to happen. I know the family and know more about this story than what has been released publicly at this time. – forever_pit
Of course, I feel sorry for both families. But I know the family of Rockett, who attacked the little dog. This dog has NEVER done ANYTHING like this before. The dog even lives with 4 other cats in the house. My children have been around this dog. (Brandy, you failed the smell test!) – BrandyWK

“Magical rehabilitation”

Magical rehabilitation describes pit bull owners, rescuers and trainers who claim to quickly “cure” a pit bull — eliminating the dog’s aggressive traits — after a serious mauling. A perfect example of magical rehabilitation occurred after James Harrison’s pit bull, who mauled three people in a single attack (a triple mauler), and within 20 days, was “cured” and ready for adoption by the public.

Somehow between May 30 and June 20 (about 20 days), the triple mauling dog now named Duke has been magically “rehabilitated” by Mary Kay Kain. The animal has gone from being a pit bull to an “American Bandogge Mastiff” and from being a triple mauler to a dog that “loves to sit back in your lap and get belly rubs and kisses on his head.”  – DogsBite.org

“I’m a vet tech”

This phrase is often used by pit bull owners to be seen as an authority when interviewed in news articles or commenting in a mauling thread. 95% of the time, the person is not a “vet tech” (with 2-3 years of accredited training) nor has any training outside of being a pit bull owner. Maul Talkers often take this perceived expert claim further by claiming to be a vet tech for “30 years.” When his or her MySpace or Facebook page is found, however, the person’s age is listed as 25 or younger. Any person who claims to be a “vet tech” when talking about the pit bull issue should quickly be dismissed as a fraud.

I work with all types of dogs as I am certified veterinary technician. When I was in Aurora I worked with quite a few “Pit-bulls” and never came across one that I was scared of until my last day of 2 years at that clinic. I was attacked by several chows, a few labs and one extremely mean Golden (not even mentioning all the chihuahuas, min-pins, shit-zus and countless other small dog breed). – CVT

As a vet tech for 8 years I have had a lot of experience handling dogs who I am unfamiliar with and who are unfamiliar with me. I have had to restrain and perform painful and frightening procedures on all shapes and sizes. When I began in this business I had no experience with pit bulls at all. In the past eight years MANY of the breeds I used to admire have shown me their true and ugly natures and I am no longer a fan. On the flipside I have come to respect and adore the pit bull based on my experiences with them. – Vet Tech

“Can you identify a pit bull?”

This phrase and its related themes are frequently voiced by Maul Talkers. The gist is that members of the public allegedly cannot identify a pit bull, despite the massive amount of press coverage (yielding 400,000 search results) of the Vick dogs and groups such as Best Friends and Bad Rap continuing to parade these pit bulls in front of the public via TV shows and more. Pit nutters go to elaborate lengths to trick members of the public into believing that they cannot identify a pit bull by creating “Find the Pit Bull” websites as well. A far more realistic Find the Pit Bull Test is located at DogsBite.org.

Variations include: 1.) Do you even know what a pit bull is? 2.) A pit bull is not a breed of dog, and  3.) Would you know a pit bull if you saw one?

pitsanddobs: “3rd Do you even know what a Pit Bull is? Would you recognize one if you saw one? Probably not most people can’t.”
Erik Hess: “First of all, a “Pit Bull” is not a breed of dog…”
Generic Pit Nutter: “If you wouldn’t know a pitbull if you saw one, you’re not alone.”

“Dogs had begun scrapping”

This phrase stems from professional whitewasher James Crosby, who left a comment at a DogsBite.org blog post about the fatal attack of Mary Bernal. Crosby not only blames the horrifically violent incident on the victim and the victim’s sister-in-law, he also minimizes the attack by referring to it as the “dogs had begun scrapping”. Thus it’s perfectly normal for a dog scrap to result in one human being killed and another severely injured. Learn more by reading: The Crosby Analysis.

This attack began before the day of the attack. Relatives were visiting for a month and had a small dachshund. The dachshund had received substantial attention, supplanting the dog Taz in many interactions. Just prior to the attack Ms. Bernal had picked up the dachshund because the two dogs had begun scrapping. When Ms. Bernal yelled at Taz and snatched the dachshund away, Taz went after the little dog. Bernal held the dog up and screamed. Taz’s first bite was to Ms. Bernal’s hand, where she was holding the dachshund. Her screaming intensified, triggering further action by Taz. Ms. Bernal went down and Taz continued attacking the screaming, thrashing woman. Ms. Macias stuck the dog repeatedly with a shovel, intensifying the attack. – James Crosby

“You cannot trust the media”

Maul Talkers frequently condemn their critics by claiming a media bias against pit bulls and that one “cannot trust the media.” Google News Archives shows that the term cropped up in the early 1990s after television reporter Wendy Bergen staged a dogfight in her 1991 four-part series, Blood Sport about dog fighting in Colorado. The “cannot trust” term, however, has only been recently (2009) adopted by Maul Talkers.

CB, you seriously can’t trust articles like that. The CDC doesn’t track dog bites by breed, and they never have. For one thing, they don’t trust eyewitnesses to be able to accurately ID dog breeds..
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If you want true, factual information about any of this – this breed, dog bites, dog behavior – sadly, you cannot trust the media to tell you the truth. You’re going to have to do some research yourself, and maybe even go out and meet a pit bull… – kmarie

“Educate yourself!”

This term is frequently used by pit bull advocates to condemn persons who speak up about the inherent dangers of pit bulls. The term is expressed in a variety of ways, such as: Get educated, Do some education, I am an educator and Educate yourself. The mauling thread following a May story (Pit Bull Attacks Dog, Owner in Elliot City) is a classic example. The terms are used 15 times, here are just a few examples:

  • “You really need to get educated on dogs before you say anything”
  • “All I ask is you do some education on the breed”
  • “Should we ban the human. Come on people, get educated!”
  • “Get educated people, Petey from the little rascals was a pit bull”
  • “I am an educator with a masters degree and I own a pit bull!”
  • “Stop name calling and get some education!”
  • “This comment blog has turned into “educated” pit bull owners and breed experts trying to convince the “uneducated” non breed experts”

“Are you a biologist?”

As demonstrated by the question, “Are you a geneticist?” the similar question, “Are you a biologist?” comes up at the first mention of the pit bull breed’s genetic heritage. In a lovely YouTube video that depicts a pit bull owner egging his dog to “get it boy” (to continue clamping down on a rope), user “bizzo518” responds to a comment:

where did you pull your info????? are you a vet, dog behaviorist, biologist….or what…..the avg domestic dog bites at around 320psi, a german shepard,pitt, and rotty were tested….guess what the pitt generated the LEAST amount of psi….DONT TALK SHIT AND POST STUFF IF YOU ARE AN UNEDUCATED ASS………. – bizzo518

“Are you a geneticist?”

The term is often used by pit bull advocates to derail or condemn a person who mentions the genetic heritage of the pit bull breed, which was selectively bred for explosive aggression to “rule” the fighting pit. Dogfighters even took selective breeding further for the breed by selecting for the “gamest” dog, a dog that will fight to its death. A recent article published by the Commercial Appeal and authored by Tom Graves (My Thoughts: Pit bull epidemic requires passage of breed-specific ordinance) exemplifies this.

1) Are you a geneticist? Are you a biologist? No, you are a professor of literature. You have no scientific backing for any of your claims about “fighting DNA” or that one breed of dog is genetically unlike any other dog. In fact, you should know all about writing statements with no support. I’m sure you do not let your students get away with such claims. – PitBullOwner

“You are ignorant!”

Like the phrase, “educate yourself,” the phrase, “you are ignorant,” is used by pit bull advocates to condemn persons who question or criticize pit bulls. A Google Search for the term, you are ignorant pit bull shows over 180,000 results:

What do you suggest – kill off the species? Kill all dogs?? Nevermind…don’t answer that…I can already guess your answer. I will just ignore such ignorance. Period. – liveyourlife
You sir, are ignorant. Pit bulls do not instinctively go for the jugular vein. They also do not have “Locking Jaws.” I own an American Pit Bull Terrier. I have all the shots and papers to prove it. – thrustedyosocks
I’m so glad you said and did exactly what you said and did, Shorty. That photographer was an ignorant ***hole and I HOPE that everyone sees that and no one wants to work with him again. Hercules is awesome and sweet. – umm